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Sergey (RICO Drops) - about Narnia, Taleb and big money

How did you get into the crypt?

I: Look. In one of the interviews, you said that you got into the crypt from the stock market from the Moscow stock exchange. Usually the opposite happens in people, after the crypts go to the fund. Here's some kind of reverse you got. How did this happen, and why did you leave the foundation? And when was that?

Sergey (ICO Drops): In general, everything started there with startups. That is, I was engaged in startups. We've been sawing at the startup for a long time. I was living in Vietnam at the time. And, in general, we got closer on the producthant. The startup didn't go well with us. We closed it and the team was disbanded. That's it, then everyone is on their own. I decided that I would rest for a year and do nothing at all. I was resting literally for 4 or 5 months and there was just nothing to do. I started doing panda. I already had an account then, and I began to go deeper. Then there was Alyonka Capital. There are these MFD forums. That is, I started analyzing it right then. I didn't try to get into technical analysis there. I immediately started reading Taleb "Fooled by Chance" and tried to find something on the forums there somewhere, some people, insiders who understand something. To understand, to catch on, to look at some parts of history. That is, I was looking for some individual point stories.

I: What year was it? Prompt.

From: 2016, probably, or 2017. But I made the broadcast there before the beginning of 2017. There's 300% and it costs $40. I started following bitcoin there at that time and just saw that the ethers there are ether, so they mine it. I started reading about mining and I already understood that it was necessary to delve into this topic. I wanted to do mining, something else. And plus I have a desire myself. That is, I was out of breath in Vietnam. There was a desire to start working again, there are some startups to saw. And so I decided that I should return to Russia, buy these farms and start making some websites.

I: Your main motivation was loot, right? Why did you pay attention there, because there is some loot, 300% of something is growing.

S: Listen, well, the fact that this is something new at the junction of startups and technologies, I saw after that. And mining was just interesting to me. Mining is something like that, to assemble farms, there are 8 video cards, to dig into the hardware. That is, it's like a childhood dream to realize. Like, build a super computer. I was just wondering.

I: So the official money in the crypt was for mining farms?

S: Yes. I bought a farm, mined it. In principle, I didn't get into the crypt at all. Generally. That is, I have everything that the farm remembered, I used this money to spin them further.

I: So the first 25 bucks on the ICO, which you talked about in an interview, it was mined, right?

S: Well, I kind of made a penny there, and threw it. Yes, that is, it's all mining.

I: Binance recently named you the top 1st influencer in the CIS. And how do you identify yourself in the crypt? Are there traders, analysts, media? Who do you think you are? What do you call yourself?

S: Look, I don't know. You know, I think I'm kind of a dude who created a successful startup, raised money there, and I decided to take this opportunity to become a neutral player who doesn't earn too much media money. And I can do community, say what I want, send whom I want. That is, I want to be like this. I'm not a blogger. That is, I do what I want.

I: Well, yes, the screen was last 2 months ago. Definitely not.

S: You know, I didn't aspire to go there. That is, everyone there who knows, old people, that it all happened by accident. That is, there's just a chat. I was sitting, chatting in all the chats that were. Just like any ordinary one. I just talked everywhere and I had a website. The site was already visited by someone back then. That is, there was already some kind of popularity there. I was asked to create my own chat, like you're rummaging there the most. You have something to share. And I was sharing ideas there in the chat, somewhere else. That is, that's how the chat appeared and that's it. And off she went. And then the stream was also made for fun for their own. And then Radchenko called me for fun. Another story has already begun there. (I have a guest, so to speak, the God of ICO). Later, those who came, they already thought that I was some kind of video blogger, although I didn't present myself like that, I didn't do anything like that.

What would you do in 2021?

I: Here is the name of ICO Drops, it is understandable, because given the year of foundation and type of activity. And what would you call your project now in 2020? Because the hype ICO has passed and more, probably, the question is about what has changed in terms of work. That is, at one time you had a task not to get into the scam. Then the main thing, in principle, is to go to the ICO, then find the exit point. What do you earn now? What would your project be called if it appeared now?

S: I have an idea (again, I always share them). Firstly, we have an ICO drops project, then dropstab. It's like an analogue of CMC, which we have been sawing and can't cut everything for a year and a half. Then DropsEarn, which we launched. This is earnings on airdrop. Then there is the EherDrops bot. In general, if we have someone there in the team who wants to do something, then we help and try to send/launch it above. There are basic projects, there are some small projects. Also, if I had started from scratch, for example, they would have taken me away. That is, I would sell now, for example, to some fund or financial ICO Drops, I would create an analogue of Alyonka Capital in the crypt. I mean, I probably would have done it.

I: Tell me for the audience who does not know what Alenka Capital is. What is it?

S: Alyonka Capital is such an all in one, according to the Russian fund. This is a site where there is a news feed, analytical materials and there are comments there. That is, you basically went in, and you don't need to read anything else there on the foundation, because everything is on the same site. Both analytics and news flow. A news stream created by the investors themselves. That is, not newsmen, but investors directly create these news, separate them. And the analytics are from practicing investors, which is important. There is, accordingly, a subscription, but it is cheap. That is, it's not like in a telegram trading chat group. That's not the point there, but rather on a statement of something, 500 rubles or 1000 rubles a month. There people work for this money. If you pay, then you understand what you are paying for. I would be one of the authors on such a platform and that's it. Well, I would have been sawing at some other startups.

I: And I would call it Seryozhka Capital.

S: I don't know, Narnia Capital would call it. Oh, this is something that would be interesting to do, because I know that such a project will take off. That is, there's even an idea in what? It's not profitable for me at all. The math is simple there, not a lot of money, but I just want to do it, because I know that I can do it well.

I: This is the motivation of a pioneer who wants to discover something, right?

S: Rather, I just want to stake out a niche. In general, if someone stakes out there and does well, then I won't be offended either.

I: By the way, what are you doing now in terms of earning money?

S: I just call it all speculation. That is, we are speculators in this market and are just looking for opportunities. Years go by, but I still think that ICO is the most interesting topic. Here is the most interesting one, because everything else is very big risks.

I: And what are the prospects for ICO, given the current situation? That is, there was ICO, then AIO, then DEFI. Now what will be the next trend? Do you believe that the ICO will come back?

S: It hasn't gone anywhere. That is, right here on the coin list, the latest project is flow. That is, these are all classic ICOs. Moreover, very high-quality projects are allowed to go there. In general, this is our model, what should multiaccounts do there, try to exploit this system to the maximum, use it to the maximum. It worked then, it works now. I know of these stories when the multiaccount strategy gave simply amazing results. The last thing is that this UNI was a drop, and one person from our community just using this strategy to make a lot of accounts everywhere, that is, multi-fishing, earned a lot of money.

I: Did he just shoot this thing?

S: Yes, I just fired and the person earned.

I: It was like WarChain, where they just swung like crazy, then how many were there, 15 x's?

S: Yes, and now it's the same. You know, those who have done a lot of accounts, they sit happy, because they understand that they have entered a successful project and that everything will be fine there. And those who were lazy did not earn anything.

I: That is, ICO drops live there, and they just change qualitatively, there is less spam of any kind.

S: I'm just talking about what I'm saying, that maybe a lot of attention has gone towards DEFI or somewhere else, but once a quarter there is still some project where you can throw in. That is, to invest and clip it right here properly. That is, once every six months there is a good direct project where you can invest and clip. That is, it's not going anywhere. Moreover, it cannot go anywhere, because ICO is like ITO, it is a universal thing. This is still the starting point of entering the market. In principle, ICO can be called anything, any format. That is, running on Unis Work. That is, they are also a pool there, and you can be among the first to pick up at the original price. If you do it quickly and use some kind of bot, or from the command line, that is, you participated in the ICO. You bought an asset at the lowest price. This is no different. It's all ICO. When any token appears on the market, it's all ICO.

I: Under our interview with Ivan GBI, you called him "my cunt". Tell this story. Why did you take it. He was young enough, in principle, to work. How did it work, and why did you leave? You can briefly in general. How is the relationship?

S: I probably find people pretty well. If I'm lucky that we have so many interesting community shots from ICE Drops there. And I found him very simply. That is, he wrote to me. It seems there was an announcement, he wrote to me in a personal account and something so audacious. That is, it's usually kind of timid, but he somehow called me boldly that I was doing something wrong there. I say, "Well, let's see how you do it." That is, we called. Ivan just grasps everything about marketing. That is, there that I explained to him how to submit material there, how to do it all. He just grasped everything on the fly. That is, he learned very quickly. We understood each other from half a word and I, in principle, did not check his work.

I: We talked about Narnia. Narnia is one of the most successful projects turned out. That is, everyone knows about him. It's such a media brand. What is Narnia to you at all?

S: Narnia is just a chat, a flood about the crypt, but with a touch. The idea of Narnia was that it would be a chat in which a whole culture and communication would be created. That is, when we created Narnia, later we worked on culture. This is a peculiar experiment. We created these memes, created slang, invented these terms to ensure that people considered themselves Narnians, and it was fun for them in this chat. Plus, there was also an idea to instill self-confidence in the investors that we have in Narnia and teach them to fight fomo. In general, Narnia is just different as social experiments. Interaction.

I: What you're saying is basically a normal marketing strategy. You're not marketers. From where? Did this kind of natively come to you somehow? That is, it's a cool tactic to instill in people self-identification that they are Narnians or they like have their own whole there, ecosystem, their memes, their language. This is a very correct decision from the point of view of marketing. How did it come to you?

S: It's just that in Narnia there were a lot of people there initially, followers and, in principle, everyone threw a little bit. That is, someone once drew memes there, then once, more meme packs appeared. That is, we have 10 of them there, if not more, these meme packs of all sorts. Someone started making creative, videos, photos. Then the most important thing in Narnia is to find some kind of person and give him the opportunity to speak out with talent. That is, Narnia is the people who are sitting there. There are a lot of people there. Many people read, but fewer people write, because everyone wants to count these experienced people here, really cool speculators who are with big… That is, the most important thing is that there people communicate with serious deposits. These people need to be found who have their own view and have some kind of success, not just random, but some kind of natural, and give them this voice so that they can communicate and listen to them.

I: Obviously, you don't strive for media, to improve the quality, light, studio, that's all. Why do you need this media? That is, sometimes you want to go on the air, tell something. What is your main motivation? Why do you need this publicity?

S: I have a desire to teach something. In general, there are needs and a desire to teach people something, and I have learned something, I know something. And here I am just because of this desire to just teach something, that is, not media. And I'm interested in trying. I'm just going to tell you, and it will reach someone, someone will understand something. That's why I throw in different ideas. Sometimes I even throw in some non-crypto topics. I'm looking at how it will be displayed at all, how it will respond. That is, someone will perceive, someone will not perceive.

I: And how did money change your life in general and did it change?

S: Not much at all. Well, how. In general, it has changed, of course, a lot. I have millionaire friends, and even from the startup environment. I just know how they live. That is, I don't live the life of a millionaire, that's for sure. I live a pretty ordinary life, but I have a super expensive computer, just the latest technology. That is, I do not skimp on it. I don't skimp on such things that I use. The accommodation is comfortable. I've traveled, traveled, spent some money somewhere else, but in general I live exactly the same. My daily routine, plus or minus, is generally the same. I just have an expensive computer and a few more expensive things.

I: By the way, what is your daily routine? You said that you used to get up at 4 in the morning to go somewhere to some ICOs. Has something changed or are you the same Sergey as before?

S: Well, at 4 in the morning, if I have to go to the ICO, I will get up, but sometimes if I need to clip something small, then my assistant gets up and clips for me. And I sleep until 7. The age is not the same. I get up at 7, walk at 7:30. Then that's it, you sit down at the computer.

I: That is, if I moved away from the computer a little. Then in the phone already.

S: Yes. In fact, if you look from the outside like this, it's a pretty boring life, because all the action is on the computer, all the jokes are in Narnia. That is, I could probably do spending money, these are all the pleasures, but I probably just don't know how to relax. Because I know people who just know how to relax. I sometimes go to them, like, let me try to relax with you. Because I don't know how to rest. That is, I have everything at the computer, I need to do something. Others go to the bathhouse, go somewhere to soak in the pool, but I do not know. That is, I'm not interested.

I: When there is a wife and a child, usually there is something to do and you are directly forced to rest. I know by myself.

S: I have, yes. I have a child, I have a woman.

I: That is, it should provide you with the necessary rest, because at some point they say: "So, dude, let's turn it off now, and we go for a walk, go somewhere there."

S: Well, yes. With this, yes, it's a walk with the family. That's cool. Children are generally fine. That is, I've been right shilling lately. When I was a kid, I was also kind of scared, or something, children are difficult, all that. And it turned out to be a buzz at all, just fine. Or I got lucky. My child is very adequate, there are no problems at all.

I: I know by myself that it depends 100% on the parents. That is, how you communicate with the child. I've been talking to her since childhood, and she understands everything, I can explain everything to her, and from birth.

S: I'm talking about parenting. I also didn't approach it like this, that is, I'm talking about children, about the status of the family. I've been preparing for this for a very long time. That is, I started building a family in 2012, even before ICO Drops. I was preparing for this very much, I approached it consciously. I knew exactly what I wanted, how I would do it. That is, I had everything planned, and I am happy with the result. That is, education, everything is correct, strictly, sensitively on the shelves. Many people just do it all carelessly and then get into trouble.

I: Yes, and then they say, "Oh, life flew by." By the way, who did you want to be as a child? I dreamed.

S: I wanted to be as a child. I don't know. I remember the sketches there. I mean, I wanted to be president, I wanted to be a mobster, I wanted to be Bill Gates. There were some such dreams then.

I: Great set.

S: I think everyone was there. What kind of TV series were there: "The Brigade", movies about the mafia, about Bill Gates, too. There's a programmer there then, super cool. That is, some simple things.

Your attitude to Bitcoin

I: Such a question, do you have any special relation to bitcoin? Grandfather is there, Dad, the first. What is your attitude to Bitcoin?

S: I'm generally parallel. I'm not really bitcoin. Che somehow immediately came to the ether piece and for me the ether has always been number 1 in terms of assets. That is, I immediately started with ether, mined ether and somehow I didn't care about bitcoin. That is, the attitude is that bitcoin is like an index, and my task is to overtake the index. And that's why I buy something else and invest something else just to be better than bitcoin. I have no special relationship with bitcoin at all. I probably had bitcoin in my portfolio a couple of times for the whole time. That is, once upon a time I bought for fun and that's when this coronavirus was, I had stables and I was in a complete panic somewhere about 5 thousand, almost everything was thrown into bitcoin. That is, somewhere there I kept up to 10 and the season has already started there, conditionally. But I don't know. I don't have a special relationship with bitcoin. These things, now 20 thousand. And everyone is like, "Aah, 20 thousand for bitcoin." That's how people are already skimming the cream. In our chat, the guys have been fixing for a long time. That is, we have already fixed it, we have already earned it, we are already shooting it. We need these 20 thousand. In fact, it's better to let bitcoin stand somewhere in the corridor for a longer time. When bitcoin is calm, when there are no sudden movements with it, then the altcoin market and all these ideas come to life on it. And when bitcoin starts to grow sharply, then weaker assets are less liquid, they begin to fall, because people understand that a sharp rise begins to fall. And riskier assets are thrown off first. Therefore, the alt market is starting to suffer. And he suffers when Bitcoin is in flat.

I: We have a traditional question that we ask everyone. What would you say to Satoshi Nakomoto at a meeting?

S: What would I tell him. I don't know. Maybe I would have told him that my brother wanted to mine bitcoin in 2011, and I dissuaded him.

Wishes to subscribers

I: We have, in principle, everything with questions. This interview will probably be released somewhere closer to the New Year, so if you can, wish our subscribers something in 2021.

S: In general, I wish subscribers in 2021 to meddle less in all sorts of shit and not buy shit in the air. Shit is in the air, this is when you buy something that has already grown from the market, and you need to buy something from the iron levels. And the iron level is when you buy something either near the fundamental price, or go there for an ICO. At least you have a stop in your head, there is a minimum. When you buy something in the market, you buy shit in the air. Therefore, buy less shit in the air, fix the initial investment after the x's. Take that right into the law, if you want to get rich, then do right universal things, the only thing that works 100%. Tested on many people.

I: Such a question, do you have any special relation to bitcoin? Grandfather is there, Dad, the first. What is your attitude to Bitcoin?

S: I'm generally parallel. I'm not really bitcoin. Che somehow immediately came to the ether piece and for me the ether has always been number 1 in terms of assets. That is, I immediately started with ether, mined ether and somehow I didn't care about bitcoin. That is, the attitude is that bitcoin is like an index, and my task is to overtake the index. And that's why I buy something else and invest something else just to be better than bitcoin. I have no special relationship with bitcoin at all. I probably had bitcoin in my portfolio a couple of times for the whole time. That is, once upon a time I bought for fun and that's when this coronavirus was, I had stables and I was in a complete panic somewhere about 5 thousand, almost everything was thrown into bitcoin. That is, somewhere there I kept up to 10 and the season has already started there, conditionally. But I don't know. I don't have a special relationship with bitcoin. These things, now 20 thousand. And everyone is like, "Aah, 20 thousand for bitcoin." That's how people are already skimming the cream. In our chat, the guys have been fixing for a long time. That is, we have already fixed it, we have already earned it, we are already shooting it. We need these 20 thousand. In fact, it's better to let bitcoin stand somewhere in the corridor for a longer time. When bitcoin is calm, when there are no sudden movements with it, then the altcoin market and all these ideas come to life on it. And when bitcoin starts to grow sharply, then weaker assets are less liquid, they begin to fall, because people understand that a sharp rise begins to fall. And riskier assets are thrown off first. Therefore, the alt market is starting to suffer. And he suffers when Bitcoin is in flat.

I: We have a traditional question that we ask everyone. What would you say to Satoshi Nakomoto at a meeting?

S: What would I tell him. I don't know. Maybe I would have told him that my brother wanted to mine bitcoin in 2011, and I dissuaded him.

Wishes to subscribers

I: We have, in principle, everything with questions. This interview will probably be released somewhere closer to the New Year, so if you can, wish our subscribers something in 2021.

S: In general, I wish subscribers in 2021 to meddle less in all sorts of shit and not buy shit in the air. Shit is in the air, this is when you buy something that has already grown from the market, and you need to buy something from the iron levels. And the iron level is when you buy something either near the fundamental price, or go there for an ICO. At least you have a stop in your head, there is a minimum. When you buy something in the market, you buy shit in the air. Therefore, buy less shit in the air, fix the initial investment after the x's. Take that right into the law, if you want to get rich, then do right universal things, the only thing that works 100%. Tested on many people.

I: Have you ridden a Tesla this year in terms of stocks?

S: No. Well, I spent $100 there, took it off. I'm afraid of such stories. It's downright scary in general, it's simple. Nightmare. This is the stock that has grown at the mines simply. Everyone was shaved there. I have seen this on the market several times when stocks were overvalued at times in the mines. This is probably the most high-profile example. In general, the market after the coronavirus, of course, proved that there will come a moment why Taleb is right that when they shave right thoroughly. As soon as the oil was shaved, it seems to me that someone still has not realized the scale of fraud at all.

I: This is Michael Bury, who, like, from a short game, saw that Tesla and bitcoin price.

S: Yes. I bought a Tesla for 130 when it was still in 2015 back in 2014. I do not remember. When she came out on the listing. That is, I bought. I even have these deals right in my portfolio somewhere, you can find them. She grew up then. She was already expensive then. Even then she was an overprice. And she grew up just on this, that her clever speculators and miners. And these speculators were landed time after time. Of course, there will come a time when there is something, somewhere. But again, you know, when something grows in the mines, then this market maker may just end up with almost all the shares at all. And she will never fall again.

I: They are just successfully trading the future so far. As for me. Like all crypto projects. In fact. Nothing works, but we will do it sometime.

S: It's important just to have less specifics, more promises. This is a very successful thing right now. I am very afraid to invest in projects that want to make a product like "LTO" was an investment. I was right there grinding my teeth. Just because of Ivan. But I just don't like these projects that "we're like now an adoption, we already have clients, now we will." I am afraid to invest in it, because it is not necessary, nor is it necessary to adopt.

by Encrypted CEO Ivan Pavlovsky - https://incrypted.net/sergey-ico-drops-text-version-interview/